1 Thessalonians 3:4
New International Version
In fact, when we were with you, we kept telling you that we would be persecuted. And it turned out that way, as you well know.

New Living Translation
Even while we were with you, we warned you that troubles would soon come—and they did, as you well know.

English Standard Version
For when we were with you, we kept telling you beforehand that we were to suffer affliction, just as it has come to pass, and just as you know.

Berean Study Bible
Indeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass.

Berean Literal Bible
And indeed, when we were with you, we were telling you beforehand that we are about to suffer affliction, just as also it came to pass, and you know.

King James Bible
For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

New King James Version
For, in fact, we told you before when we were with you that we would suffer tribulation, just as it happened, and you know.

New American Standard Bible
For even when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it happened, as you know.

NASB 1995
For indeed when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it came to pass, as you know.

NASB 1977
For indeed when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it came to pass, as you know.

Amplified Bible
For even when we were with you, we warned you plainly in advance that we were going to experience persecution; and so, as you know, it has come to pass.

Christian Standard Bible
In fact, when we were with you, we told you in advance that we were going to experience affliction, and as you know, it happened.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
In fact, when we were with you, we told you previously that we were going to suffer persecution, and as you know, it happened.

American Standard Version
For verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For also when we were with you, we said to you before that we would be persecuted, just as you know it happened.

Contemporary English Version
because when we were with you, we told you this would happen. And we did suffer, as you well know.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For even when we were with you, we foretold you that we should suffer tribulations, as also it is come to pass, and you know.

English Revised Version
For verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Good News Translation
For while we were still with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to be persecuted; and as you well know, that is exactly what happened.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
In fact, when we were with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to suffer persecution. And as you know, that's what happened.

International Standard Version
In fact, when we were with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to suffer persecution. And as you know, that is what happened.

Literal Standard Version
for even when we were with you, we said to you beforehand that we are about to suffer tribulation, as it also came to pass, and you have known [it];

NET Bible
For in fact when we were with you, we were telling you in advance that we would suffer affliction, and so it has happened, as you well know.

New Heart English Bible
For truly, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction, even as it happened, and you know.

Weymouth New Testament
For even when we were with you, we forewarned you, saying, "We are soon to suffer affliction;" and this actually happened, as you well know.

World English Bible
For most certainly, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction, even as it happened, and you know.

Young's Literal Translation
for even when we were with you, we said to you beforehand, that we are about to suffer tribulation, as also it did come to pass, and ye have known it;

Additional Translations ...
Context
Timothy's Visit
3so that none of you would be shaken by these trials. For you know that we are destined for this. 4 Indeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass. 5For this reason, when I could bear it no longer, I sent to find out about your faith, for fear that the tempter had somehow tempted you and caused our labor to be in vain.…

Cross References
Matthew 24:25
See, I have told you in advance.

1 Thessalonians 2:14
For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea that are in Christ Jesus. You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews,

2 Thessalonians 2:5
Do you not remember that I told you these things while I was still with you?

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even while we were with you, we gave you this command: "If anyone is unwilling to work, he shall not eat."


Treasury of Scripture

For truly, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and you know.

we told.

John 16:1-3
These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended…

Acts 20:24
But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

even.

1 Thessalonians 2:2,14
But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, as ye know, at Philippi, we were bold in our God to speak unto you the gospel of God with much contention…

Acts 17:1,5-9,13
Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: …

2 Corinthians 8:1,2
Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia; …









(4) For verily, when . . .--To appreciate the nature of the argument, see the passages referred to in the margin.

Verse 4. - For; assigning the reason why they should not be moved by these afflictions. Verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we; here also Christians in general. Should suffer. Not a simple future, but denoting that it was thus appointed in the counsels of God - that their tribulation was the result of the Divine purpose. Tribulation (affliction); even as it came to pass, and ye know; that is, from your own experience. The affliction, then, was not some strange thing which had befallen them.

Parallel Commentaries ...


Greek
Indeed,
γὰρ (gar)
Conjunction
Strong's 1063: For. A primary particle; properly, assigning a reason.

when
ὅτε (hote)
Adverb
Strong's 3753: When, at which time. From hos and te; at which too, i.e. When.

we were
ἦμεν (ēmen)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's 1510: I am, exist. The first person singular present indicative; a prolonged form of a primary and defective verb; I exist.

with
πρὸς (pros)
Preposition
Strong's 4314: To, towards, with. A strengthened form of pro; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. Toward.

you,
ὑμᾶς (hymas)
Personal / Possessive Pronoun - Accusative 2nd Person Plural
Strong's 4771: You. The person pronoun of the second person singular; thou.

we kept warning you
προελέγομεν (proelegomen)
Verb - Imperfect Indicative Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's 4302: To tell (say) beforehand, forewarn, declare, tell plainly. From pro and lego; to say beforehand, i.e. Predict, forewarn.

that
ὅτι (hoti)
Conjunction
Strong's 3754: Neuter of hostis as conjunction; demonstrative, that; causative, because.

we would
μέλλομεν (mellomen)
Verb - Present Indicative Active - 1st Person Plural
Strong's 3195: A strengthened form of melo; to intend, i.e. Be about to be, do, or suffer something.

suffer persecution;
θλίβεσθαι (thlibesthai)
Verb - Present Infinitive Middle or Passive
Strong's 2346: (a) I make narrow (strictly: by pressure); I press upon, (b) I persecute, press hard. Akin to the base of tribos; to crowd.

and as
καθὼς (kathōs)
Adverb
Strong's 2531: According to the manner in which, in the degree that, just as, as. From kata and hos; just as, that.

you know,
οἴδατε (oidate)
Verb - Perfect Indicative Active - 2nd Person Plural
Strong's 1492: To know, remember, appreciate.

it has come to pass.
ἐγένετο (egeneto)
Verb - Aorist Indicative Middle - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's 1096: A prolongation and middle voice form of a primary verb; to cause to be, i.e. to become, used with great latitude.


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