1 Thessalonians 3:4
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New International Version
In fact, when we were with you, we kept telling you that we would be persecuted. And it turned out that way, as you well know.

New Living Translation
Even while we were with you, we warned you that troubles would soon come--and they did, as you well know.

English Standard Version
For when we were with you, we kept telling you beforehand that we were to suffer affliction, just as it has come to pass, and just as you know.

Berean Study Bible
Indeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass.

Berean Literal Bible
And indeed, when we were with you, we were telling you beforehand that we are about to suffer affliction, just as also it came to pass, and you know.

New American Standard Bible
For indeed when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it came to pass, as you know.

King James Bible
For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
In fact, when we were with you, we told you previously that we were going to suffer persecution, and as you know, it happened.

International Standard Version
In fact, when we were with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to suffer persecution. And as you know, that is what happened.

NET Bible
For in fact when we were with you, we were telling you in advance that we would suffer affliction, and so it has happened, as you well know.

New Heart English Bible
For truly, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction, even as it happened, and you know.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For also when we were with you, we said to you before that we would be persecuted, just as you know it happened.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
In fact, when we were with you, we told you ahead of time that we were going to suffer persecution. And as you know, that's what happened.

New American Standard 1977
For indeed when we were with you, we kept telling you in advance that we were going to suffer affliction; and so it came to pass, as you know.

Jubilee Bible 2000
For even when we were with you, we told you in advance that we must pass through tribulations, even as it has come to pass, and ye know.

King James 2000 Bible
For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and you know.

American King James Version
For truly, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and you know.

American Standard Version
For verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Douay-Rheims Bible
For even when we were with you, we foretold you that we should suffer tribulations, as also it is come to pass, and you know.

Darby Bible Translation
for also, when we were with you, we told you beforehand we are about to be in tribulation, even as also it came to pass, and ye know.)

English Revised Version
For verily, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Webster's Bible Translation
For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know.

Weymouth New Testament
For even when we were with you, we forewarned you, saying, "We are soon to suffer affliction;" and this actually happened, as you well know.

World English Bible
For most certainly, when we were with you, we told you beforehand that we are to suffer affliction, even as it happened, and you know.

Young's Literal Translation
for even when we were with you, we said to you beforehand, that we are about to suffer tribulation, as also it did come to pass, and ye have known it;
Study Bible
Timothy's Visit
3so that none of you would be shaken by these trials. For you know that we are destined for this. 4Indeed, when we were with you, we kept warning you that we would suffer persecution; and as you know, it has come to pass. 5For this reason, when I could stand it no more, I sent to find out about your faith, for fear that the tempter had somehow tempted you and caused our labor to be in vain.…
Cross References
Matthew 24:25
See, I have told you in advance.

1 Thessalonians 2:14
For you, brothers, became imitators of the churches of God in Judea that are in Christ Jesus. You suffered from your own countrymen the very things they suffered from the Jews,

2 Thessalonians 2:5
Do you not remember that I told you these things while I was still with you?

2 Thessalonians 3:10
For even while we were with you, we gave you this command: "If anyone is unwilling to work, he shall not eat."
Treasury of Scripture

For truly, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and you know.

we told.

John 16:1-3 These things have I spoken to you, that you should not be offended…

Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear to …

even.

1 Thessalonians 2:2,14 But even after that we had suffered before, and were shamefully entreated, …

Acts 17:1,5-9,13 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came …

2 Corinthians 8:1,2 Moreover, brothers, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed …

2 Thessalonians 1:4-6 So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your …

(4) For verily, when . . .--To appreciate the nature of the argument, see the passages referred to in the margin.

Verse 4. - For; assigning the reason why they should not be moved by these afflictions. Verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we; here also Christians in general. Should suffer. Not a simple future, but denoting that it was thus appointed in the counsels of God - that their tribulation was the result of the Divine purpose. Tribulation (affliction); even as it came to pass, and ye know; that is, from your own experience. The affliction, then, was not some strange thing which had befallen them. For, verily, when we were with you,.... In presence, in person, as they then were in heart and affection; when they were first among them, and preached the Gospel to them:

we told you before; before it came to pass;

that we should suffer tribulation: which they might say by virtue of Christ's prediction to all his disciples, that they should have tribulation in the world; and upon its being the common case of God's people, and the usual way through which they enter the kingdom; and the Apostle Paul might foretell this, upon the discovery that was made to him how many things he should suffer for the sake of Christ, and which therefore he always, and in every place expected; and he might have a particular revelation of the disturbance and opposition he was to meet with at Thessalonica:

even as it came to pass, and ye know; referring to the tumult and uproar in Acts 17:5, and which should be considered so far from being a discouragement, that it was a great confirmation of the truth of their mission and ministry; nor could it be so surprising to them as it might have been had they had no previous taste of it. 4. that we should suffer—Greek, "that we are about (we are sure) to suffer" according to the appointment of God (1Th 3:3).

even as—"even (exactly) as it both came to pass and ye know"; ye know both that it came to pass, and that we foretold it (compare Joh 13:19). The correspondence of the event to the prediction powerfully confirms faith: "Forewarned, forearmed" [Edmunds]. The repetition of "ye know," so frequently, is designed as an argument, that being forewarned of coming affliction, they should be less readily "moved" by it.3:1-5 The more we find pleasure in the ways of God, the more we shall desire to persevere therein. The apostle's design was to establish and comfort the Thessalonians as to the object of their faith, that Jesus Christ was the Saviour of the world; and as to the recompence of faith, which was more than enough to make up all their losses, and to reward all their labours. But he feared his labours would be in vain. If the devil cannot hinder ministers from labouring in the word and doctrine, he will, if possible, hinder the success of their labours. No one would willingly labour in vain. It is the will and purpose of God, that we enter into his kingdom through many afflictions. And the apostles, far from flattering people with the expectation of worldly prosperity in religion, told them plainly they must count upon trouble in the flesh. Herein they followed the example of their great Master, the Author of our faith. Christians were in danger, and they should be forewarned; they will thus be kept from being improved by any devices of the tempter.
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