Mark 8:17
Aware of their conversation, Jesus asked them, "Why are you debating about having no bread? Do you still not see or understand? Do you have such hard hearts?
Aware of their conversation
The Greek word for "aware" is "γνοὺς" (gnous), which implies a deep, intuitive knowledge. Jesus, in His divine omniscience, perceives the thoughts and discussions of His disciples. This awareness is not merely about overhearing but understanding the underlying concerns and doubts. It reflects Jesus' constant attentiveness to His followers' needs and struggles, reminding us that He is always aware of our innermost thoughts and challenges.

Jesus asked them
The act of Jesus asking questions is a teaching method that encourages reflection and self-examination. In the Jewish rabbinical tradition, questions are used to provoke thought and deeper understanding. Jesus, as the Master Teacher, uses this method to guide His disciples towards spiritual insight. His questions are not for His benefit but to lead His followers to a greater awareness of their faith and understanding.

Why are you debating
The Greek word "διαλογίζεσθε" (dialogizesthe) suggests a reasoning or deliberation that often leads to doubt or confusion. The disciples are caught up in a worldly concern about physical needs, missing the spiritual lessons Jesus is imparting. This highlights a common human tendency to focus on immediate, tangible issues rather than trusting in God's provision and understanding His greater purposes.

about having no bread?
Bread, in this context, symbolizes basic physical sustenance. The disciples' concern over bread reveals their lack of faith in Jesus' ability to provide, despite witnessing His miracles, such as the feeding of the multitudes. This serves as a metaphor for spiritual nourishment, reminding believers that Jesus is the Bread of Life, capable of meeting all needs beyond the physical.

Do you still not see or understand?
The Greek words "οὔπω" (oupo) for "still" and "νοεῖτε" (noeite) for "understand" emphasize a continued lack of perception and insight. Jesus is gently rebuking His disciples for their spiritual blindness and slowness to grasp the truths He is teaching. This question challenges believers to examine their own spiritual vision and understanding, urging them to seek deeper revelation and faith.

Are your hearts hardened?
The phrase "hearts hardened" uses the Greek "πεπωρωμένην" (peporomenen), indicating a callousness or insensitivity to spiritual truths. In biblical terms, a hardened heart is resistant to God's word and work. Jesus' question is a call to self-examination, encouraging His followers to remain open and receptive to His teachings. It serves as a warning against allowing doubt and disbelief to obstruct spiritual growth and understanding.

Persons / Places / Events
1. Jesus
The central figure in this passage, Jesus is addressing His disciples, challenging their understanding and faith.

2. Disciples
The followers of Jesus who are concerned about their lack of bread, demonstrating a lack of understanding of Jesus' teachings and miracles.

3. Discussion about Bread
The event where the disciples are worried about not having enough physical bread, missing the spiritual lesson Jesus is teaching.
Teaching Points
Spiritual Perception Over Physical Concerns
Jesus emphasizes the importance of understanding spiritual truths over being preoccupied with physical needs. Believers are encouraged to trust in God's provision and focus on spiritual growth.

The Danger of Hard Hearts
A hardened heart can prevent us from understanding and accepting God's truth. Regular self-examination and prayer can help maintain a receptive heart.

Faith in God's Provision
Just as Jesus provided for the multitudes, He will provide for our needs. Trusting in God's provision allows us to focus on His kingdom and righteousness.

Learning from Past Miracles
Reflecting on God's past faithfulness can strengthen our faith and understanding. Remembering how God has worked in our lives helps us trust Him in current situations.

The Role of Discussion in Spiritual Growth
Healthy discussions can lead to deeper understanding, but they should be guided by faith and openness to God's teaching rather than doubt and fear.
Bible Study Questions
1. How does Jesus' question about the disciples' hard hearts challenge us to examine our own spiritual perception?

2. In what ways can we prioritize spiritual understanding over physical concerns in our daily lives?

3. How can reflecting on past experiences of God's provision strengthen our faith in current challenges?

4. What practical steps can we take to prevent our hearts from becoming hardened to God's truth?

5. How can we use discussions with fellow believers to enhance our spiritual growth and understanding, rather than focusing on doubts and fears?
Connections to Other Scriptures
Matthew 16:8-11
This parallel passage also highlights the disciples' misunderstanding and Jesus' rebuke, emphasizing the importance of spiritual insight over physical concerns.

Exodus 16
The Israelites' concern over physical sustenance in the wilderness parallels the disciples' worry, showing a recurring theme of God's provision and human doubt.

Hebrews 3:7-11
This passage warns against hardening hearts, similar to Jesus' concern for His disciples' spiritual perception.
The Patient Teacher, and the Slow ScholarsAlexander MaclarenMark 8:17
A Sign from HeavenR. Green Mark 8:1-21
The Feeding of the for ThousandJ.J. Given Mark 8:1-21
Craving for SignsE. Johnson Mark 8:11-21
LeavenR. Green Mark 8:14-21
The Leaven of the Pharisees and of HerodA.F. Muir Mark 8:14-21
Nine Sharp and Pointed QuestionsA. Thomson.Mark 8:16-21
Seeing, Hearing, and UnderstandingMark 8:16-21
The Lessons of Trivial LossG. Macdonald, LL. D.Mark 8:16-21
Understanding PreventedG. Macdonald, LL. D.Mark 8:16-21
People
Elias, Elijah, Herod, Jesus, John, Peter
Places
Bethsaida, Caesarea Philippi, Dalmanutha, Decapolis, Sea of Galilee
Topics
Aware, Bread, Clear, Comprehension, Discuss, Discussion, Dull, Fact, Hardened, Hearing, Heart, Hearts, It's, Loaves, Minds, Perceive, Perceived, Perceiving, Reason, Reasoning, Saying, Says, Talking, Understand, Yet, Yours, Yourselves
Dictionary of Bible Themes
Mark 8:17

     6178   hardness of heart
     8355   understanding
     8761   fools, in teaching of Christ

Mark 8:14-17

     2045   Christ, knowledge of

Mark 8:14-21

     4554   yeast

Mark 8:16-21

     4418   bread

Mark 8:17-18

     5962   surprises
     8319   perception, spiritual

Mark 8:17-21

     1466   vision
     2570   Christ, suffering
     8281   insight
     8832   testing
     8837   unbelief, and life of faith

Library
The Religious Uses of Memory
'Do ye not remember!'--Mark viii. 18. The disciples had misunderstood our Lord's warning 'against the leaven of the Pharisees,' which they supposed to have been occasioned by their neglect to bring with them bread. Their blunder was like many others which they committed, but it seems to have singularly moved our Lord, who was usually so patient with His slow scholars. The swift rain of questions, like bullets rattling against a cuirass, of which my text is one, shows how much He was moved, if not
Alexander Maclaren—Expositions of Holy Scripture

The Patient Teacher, and the Slow Scholars
'And when Jesus knew It, He saith unto them, Why reason ye, because ye have no bread? perceive ye not yet, neither understand? have ye your heart yet hardened? 18. Having eyes, see ye not? having ears, hear ye not? and do ye not remember?'--Mark viii. 17,18. How different were the thoughts of Christ and of His disciples, as they sat together in the boat, making their way across the lake! He was pursuing a train of sad reflections which, the moment before their embarkation, had caused Him to sigh
Alexander Maclaren—Expositions of Holy Scripture

The Gradual Healing of the Blind Man
'And Jesus cometh to Bethsaida; and they bring a blind man unto Him, and besought Him to touch him. 23. And He took the blind man by the hand, and led him out of the town; and when He had spit on his eyes, and put His hands upon Him, He asked him if he saw ought. 24. And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. 25. After that He put His hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly.'--Mark viii. 22-25. This miracle, which is only recorded
Alexander Maclaren—Expositions of Holy Scripture

Christ's Cross, and Ours
'And Jesus went out, and His disciples, into the towns of Caesarea Philippi: and by the way He asked His disciples, saying unto them, Whom do men say that I am? 28. And they answered, John the Baptist: but some say, Elias; and others, One of the prophets. 29. And He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto Him, Thou art the Christ. 30. And He charged them that they should tell no man of Him. 31. And He began to teach them, that the Son of Man must suffer many
Alexander Maclaren—Expositions of Holy Scripture

On the Words of the Gospel, Mark viii. 34, "If any Man Would Come after Me, Let Him Deny Himself," Etc. And on the Words 1
1. Hard and grievous does that appear which the Lord hath enjoined, that "whosoever will come after Him, must deny himself." [3157] But what He enjoineth is not hard or grievous, who aideth us that what He enjoineth may be done. For both is that true which is said to Him in the Psalm, "Because of the words of Thy lips I have kept hard ways." [3158] And that is true which He said Himself, "My yoke is easy, and My burden is light." [3159] For whatsoever is hard in what is enjoined us, charity makes
Saint Augustine—sermons on selected lessons of the new testament

On the Words of the Gospel, Mark viii. 5, Etc. , Where the Miracle of the Seven Loaves is Related.
1. In expounding to you the Holy Scriptures, I as it were break bread for you. Do ye in hunger receive it, and break [3135] forth with a fulness of phrase from the heart; and ye who are rich in your banquet, be not meagre in good works and deeds. What I deal out to you is not mine own. What ye eat, I eat; what ye live upon, I live upon. We have in heaven a common store-house; for from thence comes the Word of God. 2. The "seven loaves" [3136] signify the seven-fold operation of the Holy Spirit; the
Saint Augustine—sermons on selected lessons of the new testament

Profit and Loss
We shall divide our text, and consider, in the first place, the gain a man would get if he gained the whole world; in the second place, the fearful loss if a man should lose his soul; and then, afterwards, we will try to finish up by some practical lesson. 1. In the first place, WHAT IS A MAN PROFITED IF HE SHOULD GAIN THE WHOLE WORD? Many Christian people, who do not exactly talk common sense, sum this all up by saying, that to gain the whole world is to gain nothing at all. Perhaps they are right,
Charles Haddon Spurgeon—Spurgeon's Sermons Volume 2: 1856

The Measure of Sin.
7th Sunday after Trinity. S. Mark viii. 2. "I have compassion on the multitude." INTRODUCTION.--In to-day's Gospel we see the tender compassion of our Lord for those who came into the wilderness to hear Him. This is only one example out of many of His great love and mercy: and indeed "His mercy is over all His works." "Thou, O Lord," says David, "art full of compassion and mercy, long-suffering and truth." This is a verity of which we are so convinced that it is quite possible we may overlook
S. Baring-Gould—The Village Pulpit, Volume II. Trinity to Advent

Religious Dangers
(Preached at the Chapel Royal, Whitehall, 1861, for the London Diocesan Board of Education.) St. Mark viii. 4, 5, 8. And the disciples answered him, From whence can a man satisfy these men with bread here in the wilderness? . . . How many loaves have ye? And they said, Seven. . . . so they did eat and were filled; and they took up of the broken meat that was left seven baskets. I think that I can take no better text for the subject on which I am about to preach, than that which the Gospel for this
Charles Kingsley—Town and Country Sermons

The Cause of Spiritual Stupidity.
How is it that ye do not understand?'--ST. MARK viii. 21. After feeding the four thousand with seven loaves and a few small fishes, on the east side of the Sea of Galilee, Jesus, having crossed the lake, was met on the other side by certain Pharisees, whose attitude towards him was such that he betook himself again to the boat, and recrossed the lake. On the way the disciples bethought them that they had in the boat but a single loaf: probably while the Lord was occupied with the Pharisees, one
George MacDonald—Unspoken Sermons

The Final Controversies in Jerusalem
177. The early Christians were greatly interested in the teachings of Jesus and in his deeds, but they thought oftenest of the victory which by his resurrection he won out of seeming defeat. This is proved by the fact that of the first two gospels over one third, of Luke over one fifth, and of the fourth gospel nearly one half are devoted to the story of the passion and resurrection. This preponderance is not strange in view of the shock which the death of Jesus caused his disciples, and the new
Rush Rhees—The Life of Jesus of Nazareth

Prayer --The All-Important Essence of Earthly Worship
Where the spiritual consciousness is concerned--the department which asks the question and demands the evidence--no evidence is competent or relevant except such as is spiritual. Only that which is above matter and above logic can be heard, because the very question at issue is the existence and personality of a spiritual and supernatural God. Only the Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit. This must be done in a spiritual or supernatural way, or it cannot be done at all.--C.L. Chilton The
Edward M. Bounds—The Reality of Prayer

Eight Easter Lessons Learned at Emmaus. Luke xxiv. 13-35.
I.--When friends speak of good things, Jesus draws near. "These things" which concern Jesus. Even if men speak sorrowfully, if it is of Jesus they speak, He is nigh. If He were the subject of conversation more, His friends would have more of His company. If you are shy of Him, He will be shy of you. II.--Unbelief manufactures sorrow for the godly. Jesus said they looked "sad." It is a pity to employ unbelief; he does not know how to make a smile. When he tries it is a misfit. If the disciples
Thomas Champness—Broken Bread

The Second Touch
"After that He put His hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up."--Mark viii. 25. C. P. C. tr., Emma Frances Bevan, 1899 Lo! a Hand amidst the darkness Clasped mine own-- Led me forth the blind and helpless, Led me forth alone; From the crowd and from the clamour To a silent place; Touched mine eyes--I looked upon Him-- Saw Him face to face. Saw Him, as the dawning swiftly risen O'er the valleys grey; I had passed from midnight of my prison Forth into the day. Lo! again His mighty Hand hath
Frances Bevan—Hymns of Ter Steegen and Others (Second Series)

Epistle xxiii. To John, Bishop.
To John, Bishop. Gregory to John, Bishop of Prima Justiniana in Illyricum. It is clearly a manifest evidence of goodness that the consent of all should concur in the election of one person. Since, then, the account which we have received from our brethren and fellow-bishops declared that you are summoned to the position of priesthood by the unanimous consent of the whole council and the will of the most serene Prince, we have rendered thanks with great exultation to Almighty God our Creator, who
Saint Gregory the Great—the Epistles of Saint Gregory the Great

The General Service to a Monk-Martyr.
At the Vespers, for O Lord, I have cried, the Stichera, Tone 6. Similar to: Of three days... Let us, O faithful, in dutifully praising the exploits of the wise abstainer and the pains of the soldier of Christ, cry out unto the Lord: Through his intercessions, O Christ the God, deliver us from every calamity. An abundance of the most noble peace will be given of God unto thee, O holy father (mentioned by name), that hast endured the frightful storm of torments, thou invincible warrior and intercessor
Anonymous—The General Menaion

The Four Thousand
"In those days, when there was again a great multitude, and they had nothing to eat, He called unto Him His disciples, and saith unto them, I have compassion on the multitude, because they continue with Me now three days, and have nothing to eat: and if I send them away fasting to their home, they will faint in the way; and some of them are come from afar. And His disciples answered Him, Whence shall one be able to fill these men with bread here in a desert place? And He asked them, How many loaves
G. A. Chadwick—The Gospel of St. Mark

The Leaven of the Pharisees
"And the Pharisees came forth, and began to question with Him, seeking of Him a sign from heaven, tempting Him. And He sighed deeply in His spirit, and saith, Why doth this generation seek a sign? verily I say unto you, There shall no sign be given unto this generation. And He left them, and again entering into the boat departed to the other side. And they forgot to take bread; and they had not in the boat with them more than one loaf. And He charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven
G. A. Chadwick—The Gospel of St. Mark

Men as Trees
"And they come unto Bethsaida. And they bring to Him a blind man, and beseech Him to touch him. And He took hold of the blind man by the hand, and brought him out of the village; and when He had spit on his eyes, and laid His hands upon him, He asked him, Seest thou aught? And he looked up, and said, I see men; for I behold them as trees, walking. Then again He laid His hands upon his eyes; and he looked stedfastly, and was restored, and saw all things clearly. And He sent him away to his home, saying,
G. A. Chadwick—The Gospel of St. Mark

The Confession and the Warning
"And Jesus went forth, and His disciples, into the villages of Caesarea Philippi: and in the way He asked His disciples, saying unto them, Who do men say that I am? And they told Him, saying, John the Baptist: and others, Elijah; but others, One of the prophets. And He asked them, But Who say ye that I am? Peter answereth and saith unto Him, Thou art the Christ. And He charged them that they should tell no man of Him. And He began to teach them, that the Son of man must suffer many things, and be
G. A. Chadwick—The Gospel of St. Mark

the Rebuke of Peter
"And He spake the saying openly. And Peter took Him, and began to rebuke Him.". . . . "But when He had turned around and looked at His disciples, He rebuked Peter, saying, 'Get behind Me, Satan! For you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men.' And when He had called the people to Him, with His disciples also, He said to them, Whoever desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever
G. A. Chadwick—The Gospel of St. Mark

Zealous Protestants
Tuesday, May 3.--I rode to Birr, twenty miles from Atlone and, the key of the session house not being to be found, declared "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ" in the street, to a dull, rude, senseless multitude. Many laughed the greater part of the time. Some went away just in the middle of a sentence. And yet when one cried out (a Carmelite friar, clerk to the priest), "You lie! You lie!" the zealous Protestants cried out, "Knock him down"; and it was not sooner said than done. I saw some bustle,
John Wesley—The Journal of John Wesley

The Greatness of the Soul,
AND UNSPEAKABLENESS 0F THE LOSS THEREOF; WITH THE CAUSES OF THE LOSING IT. FIRST PREACHED AT PINNER'S HALL and now ENLARGED AND PUBLISHED FOR GOOD. By JOHN BUNYAN, London: Printed for Benjamin Alsop, at the Angel and Bible in the Poultry, 1682 Faithfully reprinted from the Author's First Edition. ADVERTISEMENT BY THE EDITOR. Our curiosity is naturally excited to discover what a poor, unlettered mechanic, whose book-learning had been limited to the contents of one volume, could by possibility know
John Bunyan—The Works of John Bunyan Volumes 1-3

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