Judges 8:8
From there he went up to Penuel and asked the same from them, but the men of Penuel gave the same response as the men of Succoth.
From there he went up to Penuel
The phrase "from there" indicates a continuation of Gideon's journey, emphasizing his relentless pursuit of the Midianite kings. "He went up" suggests an ascent, both geographically and spiritually, as Penuel was located in a hilly region. Penuel, meaning "face of God," holds historical significance as the place where Jacob wrestled with God (Genesis 32:30). This connection underscores the spiritual battle Gideon is engaged in, not just a physical one. The name Penuel reminds us of divine encounters and the transformative power of God's presence.

and asked the same from them
Gideon's request for provisions is a test of faith and allegiance. The repetition of his request highlights the consistency of his mission and the expectation of support from fellow Israelites. This phrase reflects the communal responsibility within the covenant community to support God's appointed leader. It challenges us to consider our own responses to God's call and the needs of His servants.

but the men of Penuel gave the same answer
The men of Penuel, like those of Succoth, respond with skepticism and fear. Their refusal to assist Gideon reveals a lack of faith and trust in God's deliverance. This phrase serves as a cautionary tale about the dangers of spiritual complacency and the failure to recognize God's work. It invites reflection on our own faith and willingness to support God's purposes, even when the outcome is uncertain.

as the men of Succoth
The comparison to Succoth highlights a pattern of disbelief and disobedience among the Israelites. Succoth, meaning "booths" or "temporary shelters," symbolizes a transient faith that lacks depth and commitment. This phrase calls us to examine the stability of our own faith and challenges us to move beyond superficial belief to a deeper, more enduring trust in God.

Persons / Places / Events
1. Gideon
The central figure in this passage, Gideon is a judge of Israel who is leading a campaign against the Midianites. He is seeking support from fellow Israelites during his pursuit of the enemy.

2. Penuel
A location east of the Jordan River, significant in Israel's history. It is the place where Jacob wrestled with God and was renamed Israel (Genesis 32:30-31).

3. Men of Penuel
The inhabitants of Penuel who, like the men of Succoth, refuse to assist Gideon and his men in their pursuit of the Midianite kings.

4. Succoth
Another location east of the Jordan River, where Gideon first sought help and was refused, leading to his subsequent request at Penuel.

5. Midianites
The enemy nation oppressing Israel at this time, whom Gideon is pursuing to deliver Israel from their oppression.
Teaching Points
Faithfulness in Leadership
Gideon's persistence in seeking help despite rejection teaches us the importance of perseverance and faithfulness in leadership roles.

Community Responsibility
The refusal of the men of Penuel highlights the responsibility of communities to support God's work and His appointed leaders.

Consequences of Refusal
The account warns of the consequences of refusing to support God's mission, as seen later in the chapter when Gideon returns to deal with Penuel.

Trust in God's Provision
Despite human refusal, God's plan prevails. This encourages believers to trust in God's provision even when human support is lacking.

Historical and Spiritual Significance
Understanding the historical and spiritual significance of places like Penuel can deepen our appreciation of God's work throughout biblical history.
Bible Study Questions
1. How does Gideon's experience with the men of Penuel challenge us to support God's work in our communities today?

2. In what ways can we demonstrate faithfulness and perseverance in our leadership roles, even when faced with rejection?

3. Reflect on a time when you felt unsupported in a mission or task. How can Gideon's account encourage you to trust in God's provision?

4. How does the historical significance of Penuel enhance our understanding of this passage and its implications for our faith journey?

5. What lessons can we learn from the consequences faced by the men of Penuel, and how can we apply these lessons to our own lives in terms of community responsibility and support?
Connections to Other Scriptures
Genesis 32:30-31
Penuel is where Jacob wrestled with God, highlighting its historical and spiritual significance.

Judges 7:1-25
Provides context for Gideon's battle against the Midianites, showing God's deliverance through Gideon's leadership.

1 Samuel 25:10-11
Similar to the refusal of the men of Penuel, Nabal refuses to help David, illustrating a recurring theme of lack of support for God's anointed leaders.

Matthew 10:14
Jesus instructs His disciples on how to respond to those who do not receive them, paralleling Gideon's experience with rejection.
Dealing with ObstructivesA.F. Muir Judges 8:1-9, 13-17
Patience Under ProvocationW. W. Duncan, M. A.Judges 8:6-17
Punishment of the Selfish and Mean-SpiritedMarcus DodsJudges 8:6-17
People
Abiezer, Abiezrites, Abimelech, Gideon, Ishmaelites, Israelites, Jerubbaal, Jether, Joash, Midianites, Nobah, Ophrah, Oreb, Penuel, Zalmunna, Zebah, Zeeb
Places
0, Abiezer, Heres, Jogbehah, Jordan River, Karkor, Midian, Nobah, Ophrah, Penuel, Shechem, Succoth, Tabor
Topics
Likewise, Manner, Penuel, Penu'el, Request, Similarly, Spake, Speaketh, Spoke, Succoth, Thence, Thus
Dictionary of Bible Themes
Judges 8:4-9

     5496   revenge, examples

Library
September 21. "Faint, yet Pursuing" (Judges viii. 4).
"Faint, yet pursuing" (Judges viii. 4). It is a great thing thus to learn to depend upon God to work through our feeble resources, and yet, while so depending, to be absolutely faithful and diligent, and not allow our trust to deteriorate into supineness and indolence. We find no sloth or negligence in Gideon, or his three hundred; though they were weak and few, they were wholly true, and everything in them ready for God to use to the very last. "Faint yet pursuing" was their watchword as they followed
Rev. A. B. Simpson—Days of Heaven Upon Earth

The Christian Faith
Scripture references: Hebrews 11; Matthew 9:29; 17:20; Mark 10:52; 11:22; Acts 2:38; 3:16; 10:43; 16:30,31; Romans 1:17; 5:1; 10:17; Galatians 2:20. FAITH AND PRACTICE Belief Controls Action.--"As the man is, so is his strength" (Judges 8:21), "For as he thinketh in his heart so is he" (Proverbs 23:7). "According to your faith be it unto you" (Matthew 9:28,29). "Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life" (Proverbs 4:23). The Scriptures place stress upon the fact that
Henry T. Sell—Studies in the Life of the Christian

Subjects of Study. Home Education in Israel; Female Education. Elementary Schools, Schoolmasters, and School Arrangements.
If a faithful picture of society in ancient Greece or Rome were to be presented to view, it is not easy to believe that even they who now most oppose the Bible could wish their aims success. For this, at any rate, may be asserted, without fear of gainsaying, that no other religion than that of the Bible has proved competent to control an advanced, or even an advancing, state of civilisation. Every other bound has been successively passed and submerged by the rising tide; how deep only the student
Alfred Edersheim—Sketches of Jewish Social Life

Of the Power of Making Laws. The Cruelty of the Pope and his Adherents, in this Respect, in Tyrannically Oppressing and Destroying Souls.
1. The power of the Church in enacting laws. This made a source of human traditions. Impiety of these traditions. 2. Many of the Papistical traditions not only difficult, but impossible to be observed. 3. That the question may be more conveniently explained, nature of conscience must be defined. 4. Definition of conscience explained. Examples in illustration of the definition. 5. Paul's doctrine of submission to magistrates for conscience sake, gives no countenance to the Popish doctrine of the obligation
John Calvin—The Institutes of the Christian Religion

Judges
For the understanding of the early history and religion of Israel, the book of Judges, which covers the period from the death of Joshua to the beginning of the struggle with the Philistines, is of inestimable importance; and it is very fortunate that the elements contributed by the later editors are so easily separated from the ancient stories whose moral they seek to point. That moral is most elaborately stated in ii. 6-iii. 6, which is a sort of programme or preface to iii. 7-xvi. 31, which constitutes
John Edgar McFadyen—Introduction to the Old Testament

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